eddiehorror ([info]eddiehorror) wrote,

This is my side

Just so my side of all this can be heard.


Bear in mind your comments concerns and questions should be sent to me personally. The world is not a billboard for the personal things in my life.

This year on August 1st I called Tampa theatre in an effort to find out the status of the show. I had tried Calling Brian Many times and he failed to return them. I called to find out if he had contacted them and if the Audition date was set. I did this because numerous people had asked me about this and I had no answers to give.

John Bell the Theatre’s general Manager told me that he had not heard anything, and that as a result of such said that the theater was “pursuing other options for Halloween”. These Options did not include RHPS. I pleaded to him not to take this course. I told them that we needed to have a show and I verified his Contact information for Brian. He Deferred me to Tara. The theatre manager.

She and I spoke and we Decided to get the ball rolling and to try and reach Brian. At this point I had made a few phone calls. I called the director of the other local cast as well as my Web mistress, and a few other locals that I am not sure if they would hear otherwise. I then sent out Email notifications of the Audition that was set up.

The following day I was told that Brian had called the theatre and I “bowed out” of the show, after asking them if they could relay to Brian to reach me. As I had concerns About my position of Assistant Director.

At this point a few people had E-mailed and Called the Theatre. Not at my request nor at my knowledge. And a Majority of the E-mails were Derogatory towards me. The Theatre Called me and asked me my stance on the matter. I told them I was not wanting to make any waves and that they should take up issues about Brian with Brian. I was then Asked if I could provide a comprehensive list of all the previous Cast E-mail addresses and I said I would try. I was also asked to not get involved with the e-mail they would be sending. I made one phone call to the co-director of the Tampa cast to find some e-mail addresses that I did not have. And that was it.

I have told the Theatre since the minute that I started contact with them that I did not do this to “Take” that show from anyone. In fact when they asked me What I would do if it were my choice I said.” it is not my decision to make.” They asked me many questions that I did not answer or only replied “ask Brian”. I did not ever defame or make any comment on Brian even when asked. With two exceptions. “he has been doing this since the get go and he knows how to do it smoothly” and “I am not sure why he has not returned my phone calls.” And to this day I am not sure.

I have one goal in the RHPS community. And I accomplish it well. It is that I know I am doing everything I can for the 30+ people that call me director and that we put on the best show possible. I have gone to great lengths to try and keep this cast that I am on in a good order, and to make sure we have a drama-free and fun-filled show experience. And for the most part I am successful.

As for my involvement with Tampa Theater. Many of you know that I was not even interested in that show this year. I have another show to do that weekend and I am also involved with an entirely un-RHPS related event. I called the theatre to get an answer for my cast. Who I am responsible for. When the theatre told Brian was in touch I left myself out from there on out. From there They called me and asked me if the job were open would I like to do it and I replied “if I must.” And I refused to make any comment on Brian regarding the issues they asked me about. I have had Tara confirm this with me several times over the phone.


From there on out all the decisions they made had nothing to do with me. So I am just giving my side of thins. At the time of this posting I have yet to speak with Brian and when and if I do I will make adjustments accordingly.


As I have asked in the first part of this. Any questions you have Please feel free to call me or Email me personally I will not do this out in the open and further the discord that Tampa Theatre has sited as the reason for cancellation.

Ed

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[info]geodiaz

August 5 2005, 20:31:53 UTC 6 years ago

So sre you noe saying that Tara is lying?

Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 12:09:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Send an Instant Message "Brian Dare" <brian_dare@yahoo.com> View Contact Details View Contact Details
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Subject: Fwd: rhps
To: darkwing2022@yahoo.com


--- [email address omitted] wrote:
> I just glanced at Jessica's email, and don't have time to read it
right now.
> But I would just like to briefly re-cap the communications of the
past week:
>
>
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, there was a miscommunication/misunderstanding about
whether
> Rocky would happen. (Brian was waiting for a call from us while we
were
> waiting on a call from Brian.)
>
> When Ed called to inquire, he was told that Rocky might not happen
this year
> since we hadn't heard anything.
>
> Ed offered to direct, but was told that Brian would need to be
contacted
> first. Ed said that Brian was not returning calls and was not
really
> involved with the local cast.
>
> That afternoon, I left a message with Brian and got return call the
next
> morning.
>
> We cleared up the misunderstanding and Brian said he wanted to
direct.
>
> When Ed was informed that Brian would be back, he bowed out.
>
> I then got a message from Ed saying that on second thought he would
like to
> direct should the opportunity become available.
>
>
>
>
>
> Tara Schroeder
>
> Tampa Theatre
>
> P.O. Box 172188
>
> Tampa, FL 33672-0188
>
> direct line 813-274-8287
>
> main line 813-274-8286
>
> [email address omitted]
>
>
>
> Get the Tampa Theatre schedule by email (no spam, just showtimes).
Sign up
> at <http://www.tampatheatre.org> www.tampatheatre.org
>
>
>
>
>

[info]eddiehorror

August 5 2005, 20:37:02 UTC 6 years ago

Geo please by aware I posted my post after that was placed online. Further comments you know how to reach me. Thank you for reading my message so carefully.

[info]geodiaz

August 5 2005, 20:43:38 UTC 6 years ago

So you are saying she is lying, OK got it.

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[info]darkwing2022

August 5 2005, 21:21:54 UTC 6 years ago

Email from Tara at Tampa Theater regarding her communications with Ed. This has already been posted as a new thread on Brian’s LJ and is here as rebuttal.

Please note Tara specifically mentions Ed’s offer to direct, and her stipulation that Brian would need to be contacted first.

Please also note Tara specifically talks about Ed’s bowing out and then recanting.

Finally, Tara speaks about Ed’s desire to direct should the opportunity become available. This is in direct conflict with Ed’s statement “As for my involvement with Tampa Theater. Many of you know that I was not even interested in that show this year.”

On a personal note Ed, your desire to keep this discussion behind closed doors is unrealistic. Pandora is out of the box and the genie can’t be put back in the bottle. Open forum is a great way for groups of people to voice their issues and allow for transparency. If you would have been more open initially things may been different. It is disappointing this had to happen regardless of you intentions.


Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 12:09:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Send an Instant Message "Brian Dare" <brian_dare@yahoo.com> View Contact Details View Contact Details
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Subject: Fwd: rhps
To: darkwing2022@yahoo.com


--- [email address omitted] wrote:
> I just glanced at Jessica's email, and don't have time to read it
right now.
> But I would just like to briefly re-cap the communications of the
past week:
>
>
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, there was a miscommunication/misunderstanding about
whether
> Rocky would happen. (Brian was waiting for a call from us while we
were
> waiting on a call from Brian.)
>
> When Ed called to inquire, he was told that Rocky might not happen
this year
> since we hadn't heard anything.
>
> Ed offered to direct, but was told that Brian would need to be
contacted
> first. Ed said that Brian was not returning calls and was not
really
> involved with the local cast.
>
> That afternoon, I left a message with Brian and got return call the
next
> morning.
>
> We cleared up the misunderstanding and Brian said he wanted to
direct.
>
> When Ed was informed that Brian would be back, he bowed out.
>
> I then got a message from Ed saying that on second thought he would
like to
> direct should the opportunity become available.
>
>
>
>
>
> Tara Schroeder
>
> Tampa Theatre
>
> P.O. Box 172188
>
> Tampa, FL 33672-0188
>
> direct line 813-274-8287
>
> main line 813-274-8286
>
> [email address omitted]
>
>
>
> Get the Tampa Theatre schedule by email (no spam, just showtimes).
Sign up
> at <http://www.tampatheatre.org> www.tampatheatre.org
>
>
>
>
>




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[info]janric

August 5 2005, 21:38:40 UTC 6 years ago

I like how you managed to spin something like a flame-war to look like something resembling civilized debate. With the way things have been going on the various LJs I'd say Ed has every right to ask to be contacted directly. He's giving you the opportunity to contact him directly, and you'd rather be part of the mob. Fair enough, you win. Congratulations.

Also, I don't think I got to read enough copies of that email from Tara, could you post a few more of them for good measure?

[info]geodiaz

August 5 2005, 21:42:23 UTC 6 years ago

TARAS A LYING BITCH!!! I BELIEVE ED!!!! I DON'T KNOW WHY YO, BUT I BELIEVE HIM. I BELIEVE I CAN FLY.... I BELIEVE I CAN TOUCH THE SKY.... DREAM ABOUT IT EVERY NIGHT AND DAY....

[info]dragonflii_echo

August 6 2005, 07:11:10 UTC 6 years ago

I'm not a lying bitch!
Oh wait, different Tara

[info]darkwing2022

August 5 2005, 22:43:16 UTC 6 years ago

It’s not civilized and I never said it was. Group therapy is often heated and vicious. Civility is in the eye of the beholder. To some civility is butchering your neighbor and his family because he wronged you in some way. Personally, I think that level of violence is slightly discourteous and uncivilized. Now that I think about it, Flame wars really aren’t wars at all. There are no casualties or places to be concurred. In the grand scheme of things unfavorable email is quite tolerable. Also, Ed does have every right to ask to be contacted directly but that doesn’t mean it will happen or on his terms. By the way, I think being confronted by a real mob would cause a person to shit themselves. Ed’s shorts are probably clean.

As for Tara’s email, I understand you don’t like the fact that Ed's being beaten with it.

Per your request:

Email from Tara at Tampa Theater regarding her communications with Ed. This has already been posted as a new thread on Brian’s LJ and is here as rebuttal.

Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 12:09:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Send an Instant Message "Brian Dare" <brian_dare@yahoo.com> View Contact Details View Contact Details
Yahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoo.com. Learn more
Subject: Fwd: rhps
To: darkwing2022@yahoo.com


--- [email address omitted] wrote:
> I just glanced at Jessica's email, and don't have time to read it
right now.
> But I would just like to briefly re-cap the communications of the
past week:
>
>
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, there was a miscommunication/misunderstanding about
whether
> Rocky would happen. (Brian was waiting for a call from us while we
were
> waiting on a call from Brian.)
>
> When Ed called to inquire, he was told that Rocky might not happen
this year
> since we hadn't heard anything.
>
> Ed offered to direct, but was told that Brian would need to be
contacted
> first. Ed said that Brian was not returning calls and was not
really
> involved with the local cast.
>
> That afternoon, I left a message with Brian and got return call the
next
> morning.
>
> We cleared up the misunderstanding and Brian said he wanted to
direct.
>
> When Ed was informed that Brian would be back, he bowed out.
>
> I then got a message from Ed saying that on second thought he would
like to
> direct should the opportunity become available.
>
>
>
>
>
> Tara Schroeder
>
> Tampa Theatre
>
> P.O. Box 172188
>
> Tampa, FL 33672-0188
>
> direct line 813-274-8287
>
> main line 813-274-8286
>
> [email address omitted]
>
>
>
> Get the Tampa Theatre schedule by email (no spam, just showtimes).
Sign up
> at <http://www.tampatheatre.org> www.tampatheatre.org
>
>
>
>
>




____________________________________________________
Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

[info]janric

August 5 2005, 23:04:26 UTC 6 years ago

Ah, ok. So metaphores about shitting babies are fine, but the phrase "angry mob" is literal. I see how it works. Also, group therapy, in addition to being heated and vicious, is in a vaguely controlled environment with a calm moderating presence.

Also, my comment about the email was really more about the formatting on it, and the fact that when posted 7-8 times on various LJs, it gets rather annoying. I got the point the first time I read it, thank you.

Aside from all of this, I'd actually like to thank you for having the closest thing to a decent conversation I've had on the LJ since this fiasco started. Yeah, we've been kinda blasting each other, but at least we're doing it with structure, proper capitalization, and actual arguments.

[info]darkwing2022

August 6 2005, 00:16:15 UTC 6 years ago

I had to stop and think. Damn, how many times did I post that email.

1: On Brian’s LJ but that was at his request. I don’t know if it counts because I was logged in as him.
2: In response to Jessica post - My two cents (for what it's worth) Part 1, 2, & 3
3: In response to Ed’s post - This is my side
4: And finally in response to you, because it was requested.

4 certainly is less than 7 and an argument could be made for 3. If I have missed other postings of mine please point them out as I will add them to the list. Each time but the first and last the letter was used to rebut information in a post with hopes that the person on the other end could reconcile the discrepancies. The first was to share information with the overall community the last was for shits and giggles. I find it convenient to have source material on hand when discussing an issue. It also leaves little confusion about where I get my information from if it is presented at the same time as my argument.

Also, don’t be worried about the “angry mob” comment. It was fine and gave me something to work with. I understood its subtext. By using it in that context, you classified me as a name caller, irrational, angry, and full of wanton destruction for Ed. The thing is; I’m not angry, irrational, full of wanton destruction, or called anyone a name… except you…ASS! --:p.

As for the controlled environment in group therapy, this is controlled. Counselors don’t stop you from saying things or confronting a person as a group or calling someone out on the carpet. They just don’t let you hit. If Ed wants to stop this discussion he can pull the post.

Thanks for the complement.

[info]janric

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[info]unnseelie

August 7 2005, 06:52:02 UTC 6 years ago

*counts the syllables in the word 'riveting'*

Yep... -way- too big!

As for defending Ed's position as an accused liar...I don't know what happened...and I don't care. Rocky drama is as gay as festival drama.

Ed's a good guy...I've got his back regardless.

[info]darkwing2022

August 7 2005, 17:11:06 UTC 6 years ago

Fantastic, now that we are on the same page I'll keep it simple and try not to over task your mental powers.

I've been friends with Ed for 8 years. I was at his wedding and helped him get a DJ. I'v been to his home. I'v spent birthdays with him. I helped him get back on the road when he was stranded in the parking lot of the perfect place. While Ed and I are not best friends we have a long history. Good people do bad thing and make mistakes. He has a lot of questions to answer about his involvement with the theater.

[info]unnseelie

August 7 2005, 19:39:28 UTC 6 years ago

Thank you for your consideration with regard to my mental capabilities.

You've been friends with Ed a long time! Mad props for that. You were at his wedding? *applauds* So was I.

Ed...the people who are your friends, will stick by you. If you did something that the others don't like...fuck them. You -don't- have to answer for anything. You go on, you do your best...and that's enough. You're never going to please anybody and 'entertainment' folk are the worst of the lot...fickle, self-serving mother fuckers who aren't happy unless there's drama.

[info]_digitalburn_

August 7 2005, 21:58:44 UTC 6 years ago

Absolutely.

Very true, especially your last paragraph.

[info]j3nnyf3r73

August 9 2005, 10:25:46 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Absolutely.

*claps* I agree completely!

[info]geodiaz

August 7 2005, 22:59:03 UTC 6 years ago

You know Germany stuck by Hitler too. Good luck with that!

[info]_digitalburn_

August 8 2005, 10:41:41 UTC 6 years ago

You've got to be kidding.

You bring the example of -Hitler- into this conversation?

That's fucking inane.

[info]absolute_calico

August 22 2005, 13:00:32 UTC 6 years ago

I love you too man!!

I feel Ed is a great guy at heart, and I am not involved in any of this, but I know he did what he felt was best at the time. It is over now so it is time to throw the name calling out the window..

ESPECIALLY calling people Hitler... Come on it is time to grow up here!

Agree to disagree... GAME OVER!

**LOVES DEREK AND UNSEELIE**

P.S. Rocky=DRAMA!!!! Has for over 15 years...

[info]unnseelie

August 8 2005, 06:44:52 UTC 6 years ago

WOOT!

Grammar -AND- History...all in the same thread!

[info]j3nnyf3r73

August 9 2005, 10:25:00 UTC 6 years ago

Re: WOOT!

I love you. The turtles love you. Yeay turtles!

[info]j3nnyf3r73

August 9 2005, 10:24:25 UTC 6 years ago

Erm... Im with unseelie and derek_conley....

Actually... this reminds me of a lot of shit thats happened in the past regarding Rocky, only on an extremely different level. And for a lot of it, I was standing right there beside Ed, as his mate.

Now, all of you know we are no longer together, but in light of what I have seen coming from Rocky casts in the past... I can see how this all happened.

In the end, I still value Eds friendship very much. I would still fight tooth and nail for him. I dont owe anyone anything, so I dont have to take anyones side. Ive read all the posts and stuff... and I can honestly see it more from Eds point of view.

Even if he DID fuck up... which has been known to happen with everybody.. I still got his back, mang... and I honestly feel bad for his girl, since shes gonna have to go through more shit than anyone. Trust me on this one.. I know. Hopefully shes a strong one!!

[info]unnseelie

August 10 2005, 22:49:04 UTC 6 years ago

Re: WOOT!

I love you too!

I miss turtles...and pretzels...but not seagulls.

[info]flea_ri

August 12 2005, 16:34:28 UTC 6 years ago

...And to help bring back some form of sanity, it's over and done with. People will blame Ed, or Brian, or Orlando, but the fact is it's over and done. Concentrate on a Holloween show for your cast and your cast alone, next year Orlando can be fair game again.

Just my .02

[info]pktaxwench

August 13 2005, 00:31:01 UTC 6 years ago

*hugs*

I'm not too sure what is going on still, because I can't piece together any logic in all this, but it's still a bummer.

[info]fallenthoughtsx

October 6 2005, 12:54:34 UTC 6 years ago

This post violates my copyright at my blog. I will contact abuse team now!!
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